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Title: Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environme ... te-summit-disarray-danish-text
Published: Dec 8, 2009
Author: Joan Vidal
Post Date: 2009-12-08 19:47:37 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 2927
Comments: 84

The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".

A confidential analysis of the text by developing countries also seen by the Guardian shows deep unease over details of the text. In particular, it is understood to:

• Force developing countries to agree to specific emission cuts and measures that were not part of the original UN agreement;

• Divide poor countries further by creating a new category of developing countries called "the most vulnerable";

• Weaken the UN's role in handling climate finance;

• Not allow poor countries to emit more than 1.44 tonnes of carbon per person by 2050, while allowing rich countries to emit 2.67 tonnes.

Developing countries that have seen the text are understood to be furious that it is being promoted by rich countries without their knowledge and without discussion in the negotiations.

"It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get [Barack] Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process," said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.

Antonio Hill, climate policy adviser for Oxfam International, said: "This is only a draft but it highlights the risk that when the big countries come together, the small ones get hurting. On every count the emission cuts need to be scaled up. It allows too many loopholes and does not suggest anything like the 40% cuts that science is saying is needed."

Hill continued: "It proposes a green fund to be run by a board but the big risk is that it will run by the World Bank and the Global Environment Facility [a partnership of 10 agencies including the World Bank and the UN Environment Programme] and not the UN. That would be a step backwards, and it tries to put constraints on developing countries when none were negotiated in earlier UN climate talks."

The text was intended by Denmark and rich countries to be a working framework, which would be adapted by countries over the next week. It is particularly inflammatory because it sidelines the UN negotiating process and suggests that rich countries are desperate for world leaders to have a text to work from when they arrive next week.

Few numbers or figures are included in the text because these would be filled in later by world leaders. However, it seeks to hold temperature rises to 2C and mentions the sum of $10bn a year to help poor countries adapt to climate change from 2012-15.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

CO2 is a very minor greenhouse gas. The greatest greenhouse gas by far is H2O. If H2O can't cause runaway global warming then CO2 sure the heck can't.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-08   20:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#1) (Edited)

Careful there. Greenpeace will have you up on heresy and hate speech charges.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: RickyJ, christine, pizza, Original_Intent (#1)

There are several factors that effect our climate. Solar activity is the big one. Ocean circulation, PDO and ENSO. Even Jupiter's orbit plays it's part by its effect on the sun. All of these things run in cycles. How the cycles converge gives us extremes in one way or the other. Right now we have several factors all pointing towards cooling. Low sun activity, PDO and ENSO in cooling phases etc.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

For ONCE I'm rooting for Islamic-militants to strike a blow against the idiots gathering in Copenhagen.

X-15  posted on  2009-12-08   20:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#4)

That would be soooooooo kuhl.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15, christine, pizza, Original_Intent (#4)

We actually had a layer of global warming here in Sacramento. Usually doesn't get down this low. Lost a few outdoor plants. Had to scrape the car.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#3)

And just as interestingly the scientific community is being forced by anomalous data to re-evaluate how the sun operates.

Contrary to popular myth the Physical Sciences do not have the operation of the universe nailed down.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7)

the Truth doesn't move the morans no more...que fucked up

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#6)

I'm currently setting at a balmy 27 - on its way down to about 15 tonight. I hope my Rosemary Bush makes it.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: The Rotara (#8)

the Truth doesn't move the morans no more...que fucked up

I had a leftist, Nader Voter, friend tell me that even if Global Warming is wrong we need people to believe in it to fix the environment.

To which I countered you don't solve a problem by fixing the wrong thing. She wasn't convinced. $#%&!!!!! Leftists.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: pizza (#0)

I a Lod you Sir...eheheeeee

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#9)

I'm currently setting at a balmy 83 - on its way down to about 15 tonight. I hope my Rosemary Bush makes it.

A brisk 82 here at 7:30pm local...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank

Well, well, well, so this whole global warming scam boils down to the jews trying to pull off a planetary Bernie Made-off ponzi scheme.

Let the holocaust commence!

PacMan  posted on  2009-12-08   20:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: The Rotara (#12)

A brisk 82 here at 7:30pm local...

Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhppppppp!

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:34:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: farmfriend (#6)

"layer of global warming"

lol

christine  posted on  2009-12-08   20:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#6)

Had to scrape the car.

Hahahaha ... that's funny !

Wait til all of your tires blow out all at once and the glass explodes out of your windows and windshield.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: The Rotara (#12)

A brisk 82 here at 7:30pm local...

Criminy, where you posting from, Hell?

PacMan  posted on  2009-12-08   20:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#9)

Rosemary Bush

Is she a cousin of George ?

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#14)

I certainly had no intention of sweating on you my dearest of dear friends...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: PacMan (#17)

Close, Central AmeriKa...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#18)

Is she a cousin of George ?

Different branch.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: The Rotara (#19)

I certainly had no intention of sweating on you my dearest of dear friends...

Go ahead - rub it in. Here I am sitting in the deep freeze and you're sipping Pina Coladas. But you know what? I hate Coconut.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#21)

Is she a cousin of George ?

Different branch

Goooooooood one.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Contrary to popular myth the Physical Sciences do not have the operation of the universe nailed down.

This is true. One of my science friends has a very unique view of the sun. He doesn't believe it is a ball of hydrogen. I'm on the fence about his theories but they are intriguing.

http://www.omatumr.com/

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#16)

Wait til all of your tires blow out all at once and the glass explodes out of your windows and windshield.

My brother in law jumped into the front of his truck and the seat shattered. Course it was Alaska.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Damn you you derelict bass turd !

You know damn good and well I'm drinking the local (cheap) rum and coca cola !

Some people just don't have ANY respect !!!

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Here I am sitting in the deep freeze and you're sipping Pina Coladas.

Me too, in the deep freeze. Wind has been 60 -70 MPH all afternoon and it's gonna be 8 degrees overnite. (And I'm in Texas.)

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent, The Rotara (#22)

But you know what? I hate Coconut.

Ditto. Now a good Margarita...

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PacMan (#13)

this whole global warming scam boils down to the jews trying to pull off a planetary Bernie Made-off ponzi scheme.

Yes, we all know who will be handling the *ahem* money "tranfers" *ahem* from the first-world nations to the U.N. and the pocket-change going to second/third- world nations.

X-15  posted on  2009-12-08   20:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222, Original_Intent (#27)

Me too, in the deep freeze. Wind has been 60 -70 MPH all afternoon and it's gonna be 8 degrees overnite. (And I'm in Texas.)

Well you know how Texas is, they have to do it bigger and better than everyone else!

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   20:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: noone222, Original_Intent (#27)

That's it !

You SOBs are gonna force me to re-load the pura vida pipe and drink YET ANOTHER rum and soda concoction !

And; have you ever lived with a pregnant woman for the first tri-mester ? Series ? It's a ride I caint describe.

Am I logged on yet ????

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: X-15 (#29)

Operating the Carbon Tax Plan from Prison is "no problemo"

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:55:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: farmfriend (#24)

Contrary to popular myth the Physical Sciences do not have the operation of the universe nailed down.

This is true. One of my science friends has a very unique view of the sun. He doesn't believe it is a ball of hydrogen. I'm on the fence about his theories but they are intriguing.

http://www.omatumr.com/

Thank you.

Take a look at Enterprise Mission and Hoagland's stuff on Hyperdimensional Physics. Interesting stuff. He has made some predictions based on the theory which have been born out in the real world.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: The Rotara (#31)

have you ever lived with a pregnant woman for the first tri-mester ?

Suck it up you pussy ... you are now logged in !

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   20:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#23)

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   20:59:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#33)

He has made some predictions based on the theory which have been born out in the real world.

Obviously the man is a complete fraud then.../s

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   20:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: The Rotara (#26)

You know damn good and well I'm drinking the local (cheap) rum and coca cola !

Ummmmmmmmmm! This IS the best bottle of Port I've ever had. I need to buy another one and stick it away for about ten years.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   21:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#34)

Suck it up you pussy ... you are now logged in !

What the fuck ?! Where's the brotherly love you SOB ? I'm crying more than she is ???? Is that normal ????????????

HELP !!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

Fuck I'm now logged in...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#33)

This is true. One of my science friends has a very unique view of the sun.

I understand he's actually closing one eye so he can see it through his colon !

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   21:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#33)

cool. I'll take a look.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   21:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: The Rotara (#38)

Where's the brotherly love you SOB ? I'm crying more than she is ???? Is that normal ????????????

Normal for who ???

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   21:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: The Rotara (#31)

have you ever lived with a pregnant woman for the first tri-mester ? Series ? It's a ride I caint describe.

Am I logged on yet ????

Just think - only 6 more months.

Don't forget the Sardines and Liverwurst.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   21:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: The Rotara, noone222, Original_Intent (#31)

nd; have you ever lived with a pregnant woman for the first tri-mester ? Series ? It's a ride I caint describe.

You ain't seen nothing yet!

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-08   21:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#37)

Series

No, SERIES.

The local rum fucking kicks ASS !

It's insane how stupidly good and cheap the rum and (widely available) great cigars are down here.

I'm SO sorry to rub yer hook nose init, but FORE THE LUV OF ALL THAT IS RIGHT this is the best offline night of my EEEEnTIRE life today...LOL

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: The Rotara (#31)

...have you ever lived with a pregnant woman for the first tri-mester ? Series ? It's a ride I caint describe.

I feel your pain.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: noone222 (#41)

Normal for who ???

Well, amigo, how about ME for STARTERS ????

LOL

(I need more ice...)

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: The Rotara (#31)

I would strongly suggest Religion at this point...

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Original_Intent (#42)

Don't forget the Sardines and Liverwurst.

7 more months ahole amigo and yes I already ate them...LOL /gurp

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: The Rotara (#44)

That's another reason to hate Oh'bummer - the SCHIP Tax which added another 10-12 bucks to a box of cigars. &*$^#@@(!!!!!!!!!

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   21:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: noone222 (#39)

This is true. One of my science friends has a very unique view of the sun.

I understand he's actually closing one eye so he can see it through his colon !

Now THAT is just plain FUNNY and I don't care who you are...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: The Rotara (#48)

Don't forget the Sardines and Liverwurst.

7 more months ahole amigo and yes I already ate them...LOL /gurp

Ooooooooooooh. Ucky. They were for her silly. ;-)

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   21:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: noone222 (#34)

Suck it up you pussy ... you are now logged in

hahahahahahahaha!!!!

christine  posted on  2009-12-08   21:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: wudidiz, my LOVELY wife (#45)

I feel your pain.

No you don't. You have no idea what I feel. This is going to kill me. Thanks for nothing. You think this is funny. NO, I DON'T WANT FRIED CHICKEN OR SALAD ! Did you just LOOK at THAT woman ? You don't understand anything...and I LOVE you sweetie !

Sound remotely familiar ?? !!

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: The Rotara (#38)

What the fuck ?! Where's the brotherly love you SOB ? I'm crying more than she is ???? Is that normal ????????????

HELP !!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

Fuck I'm now logged in...

dying laughing.....

christine  posted on  2009-12-08   21:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#52)

Wow

You tu christae !!

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent (#51)

she didn't want any ice cream or platinos fritos either.

I'm sooooooooo screwed. (checking available rum levels now...)

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: The Rotara (#53)

Sound remotely familiar ?? !!

My mind has blocked most of it out, but yes.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: The Rotara (#55)

christae

is that spanish christine?

christine  posted on  2009-12-08   21:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Original_Intent (#49)

That's another reason to hate Oh'bummer - the SCHIP Tax which added another 10-12 bucks to a box of cigars. &*$^#@@(!!!!!!!!!

Interestingly, the taxation concept in C.A. is quite different than Los Estados...LOL

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: The Rotara (#56)

she didn't want any ice cream or platinos fritos either.

Have you tried cottage cheese and cantaloupe?

The cantaloupe must be sliced.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: The Rotara (#50)

Now THAT is just plain FUNNY and I don't care who you are...

Having a few of those rum concoctions has to help !!!

noone222  posted on  2009-12-08   21:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: christine (#58)

No, "et tu brute" was some drunkin derivation which, when I typed it, was going somewhere mildly humorous (to me)...I apologize for all inconveniences. OY am I going to get D-RUNK 2 nite.

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wudidiz (#60)

Have you tried cottage cheese and cantaloupe?

The cantaloupe must be sliced.

God knows I've tried everything BUT that !

And y'all know I'm going for it in the morning... !

Not diced or cubed, but SLICED ???

Is there an approximate temperature for storage that I should be considering ?????

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: The Rotara (#62)

oh, i get it now. duh. at least you have the drink to blame. ;P

christine  posted on  2009-12-08   21:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#57)

My mind has blocked most of it out, but yes.

Send me a bill for the therapy. God knows I never wanted to drag you through this again.

I'm a heartless SOB. Please forgive me...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: christine (#64)

at least you have the drink to blame.

That cigar with your name on it might have to wait.

No smoke is worth (my pregnant wife killing me over) dying for...and yes I like you plenty amiga. (of course I will have to deny that should my wife ax) 8"/

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: The Rotara. all weather watchers here (#12)

55 going down to 45, and then down to 35, or so tomorrow night.

God bless all this warming.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   21:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: The Rotara (#63)

Not diced or cubed, but SLICED ???

Is there an approximate temperature for storage that I should be considering ?????

Whatever she wants.

Two words to memorize:

1. Yes

2. Dear

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: noone222 (#61)

Having a few of those rum concoctions has to help !!!

What exactly might it possibly mean if I can drink half a quart and STILL post with some coherence ????

I'm breaking out the sinsemilla now...that I remembered I have some here !

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: The Rotara (#63)

The Cantaloupe can be kept at room temperature until you cut into it and then must be refrigerated.

I would say slightly chilled for the Cantaloupe and cold for the cottage cheese. Cantaloupe has its best flavor somewhere around 55 degrees.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-08   21:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: wudidiz (#68)

I sought council, and as much as I thank you, "SI MI AMOR" is my best (and maybe only) option...I can't wait to have our baby !

Only 7 more months !!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: noone222 (#27)

Me too, in the deep freeze. Wind has been 60 -70 MPH all afternoon and it's gonna be 8 degrees overnite. (And I'm in Texas.)

Damn - the high plains are getting hammered tonight.

Stay warm, safe, and well.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   21:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#70)

Damn, you make it sound SOOOOO GOOOOOOOD !

Enjoy life one (bite, drink, smoke, moment) at a time !!! I always say...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: pizza (#72)

Damn - the high plains are getting hammered tonight.

In a weird kind of way I miss it...not much, but have strong recollections of good times surviving that shit.

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: The Rotara (#71)

"SI MI AMOR"

Don't use it in response to, "Were YOU looking at THAT woman?".

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   21:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: The Rotara (#74)

Where did you relocate to escape the joys of the high plains?

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   21:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: pizza (#67)

God bless all this warming.

My beeuuuuteefull and sweeeeeeeet LUVVVVVVVVVVVVING wife is asleep and I'm typing rather quietly.

Best to roll through a bong bowl downstairs.

(ah fudge, they're all up...)

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: wudidiz (#75)

LOL

Mom, Dad and I miss you Bro...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: pizza (#76)

Central AmeriKa.

Take your pick...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: The Rotara (#79)

CR would be my choice.

Were I leaving.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   21:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: pizza (#80)

Do Panama b4 CR mis amigo...IMHumble and well experienced opinion. Which ain't worth 2 shits btw.

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   21:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: The Rotara (#81)

We've checked out CA, and liked a lot down there.

With our personal situations, we'll be here throughout it all.

Loaded and locked, and preparing for whatever.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   22:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: pizza (#82)

I have over a hundred ways to get back in and join you and all our friends...you can't ever be OVER prepared so keep thinking about maximum efficiency with total coverage under all contingencies...

The Rotara  posted on  2009-12-08   22:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: The Rotara. all (#83)

you can't ever be OVER prepared so keep thinking about maximum efficiency with total coverage under all contingencies

Amen.

and Amen to that.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-08   22:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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