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Title: Uproar in Australia Over Plan to Block Web Sites
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/200 ... alia-Internet-Filter.html?_r=3
Published: Dec 27, 2008
Author: AP
Post Date: 2008-12-27 10:11:21 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 673
Comments: 19

Uproar in Australia Over Plan to Block Web Sites Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: December 26, 2008 Filed at 11:41 a.m. ET

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- A proposed Internet filter dubbed the ''Great Aussie Firewall'' is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries.

Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government -- mostly child pornography, excessive violence, instructions in crime or drug use and advocacy of terrorism.

Hundreds protested in state capitals earlier this month.

''This is obviously censorship,'' said Justin Pearson Smith, 29, organizer of protests in Melbourne and an officer of one of a dozen Facebook groups against the filter.

The list of prohibited sites, which the government isn't making public, is arbitrary and not subject to legal scrutiny, Smith said, leaving it to the government or lawmakers to pursue their own online agendas.

''I think the money would be better spent in investing in law enforcement and targeting producers of child porn,'' he said.

Internet providers say a filter could slow browsing speeds, and many question whether it would achieve its intended goals. Illegal material such as child pornography is often traded on peer-to-peer networks or chats, which would not be covered by the filter.

''People don't openly post child porn, the same way you can't walk into a store in Sydney and buy a machine gun,'' said Geordie Guy, spokesman for Electronic Frontiers Australia, an Internet advocacy organization. ''A filter of this nature only blocks material on public Web sites. But illicit material ... is traded on the black market, through secret channels.''

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy proposed the filter earlier this year, following up on a promise of the year-old Labor Party government to make the Internet cleaner and safer.

''This is not an argument about free speech,'' he said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. ''We have laws about the sort of material that is acceptable across all mediums and the Internet is no different. Currently, some material is banned and we are simply seeking to use technology to ensure those bans are working.''

Jim Wallace, managing director of the Australian Christian Lobby, welcomed the proposed filter as ''an important safeguard for families worried about their children inadvertently coming across this material on the Net.''

Conroy's office said a peer-to-peer filter could be considered. Most of today's filters are unable to do that, though companies are developing the technology.

The plan, which would have to be approved by Parliament, has two tiers. A mandatory filter would block sites on an existing blacklist determined by the Australian Communications Media Authority. An optional filter would block adult content.

The latter could use keywords to determine which sites to block, a technology that critics say is problematic.

''Filtering technology is not capable of realizing that when we say breasts we're talking about breast cancer, or when we type in sex we may be looking for sexual education,'' Guy said. ''The filter will accidentally block things it's not meant to block.''

A laboratory test of six filters for the Australian Communications Media Authority found they missed 3 percent to 12 percent of material they should have barred and wrongly blocked access to 1 percent to 8 percent of Web sites. The most accurate filters slowed browsing speeds up to 86 percent.

The government has invited Internet providers to participate in a live test expected to be completed by the end of June.

The country's largest Internet provider, Telstra BigPond, has declined, but others will take part. Provider iiNet signed on to prove the filter won't work. Managing director Michael Malone said he would collect data to show the government ''how stupid it is.''

The government has allocated 45 million Australian dollars ($30.7 million) for the filter, the largest part of a four-year, AU$128.5 million ($89 million) cybersafety plan, which also includes funding for investigating online child abuse, education and research.

One of the world's largest child-advocacy groups questions such an allocation of money.

''The filter may not be able to in fact protect children from the core elements of the Internet that they are actually experiencing danger in,'' said Holly Doel-Mackaway, an adviser with Save the Children. ''The filter should be one small part of an overall comprehensive program to educate children and families about using the Internet.''

Australia's proposal is less severe than controls in Egypt and Iran, where bloggers have been imprisoned; in North Korea, where there is virtually no Internet access; or in China, which has a pervasive filtering system.

Internet providers in the West have blocked content at times. In early December, several British providers blocked a Wikipedia entry about heavy metal band Scorpion. The entry included its 1976 ''Virgin Killer'' album cover, which has an image of a naked underage girl. The Internet Watch Foundation warned providers the image might be illegal.

Canada, Sweden, the United Kingdom have filters, but they are voluntary.

In the United States, Pennsylvania briefly imposed requirements for service providers to block child-pornography sites, but a federal court struck down the law because the filters also blocked legitimate sites.

In Australia, a political party named the Australian Sex Party was launched last month in large part to fight the filter, which it believes could block legal pornography, sex education, abortion information and off-color language.

But ethics professor Clive Hamilton, in a column on the popular Australian Web site Crikey.com, scoffed at what he called ''Net libertarians,'' who believe freedom of speech is more important than limiting what children can access online.

''The Internet has dramatically changed what children can see,'' said the professor at Charles Sturt University in Canberra, noting that ''a few extra clicks of a mouse'' could open sites with photos or videos of extreme or violent sex. ''Opponents of ISP filters simply refuse to acknowledge or trivialize the extent of the social problem.''

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#1. To: All (#0)

This is an example of what might come our way. If it does, we'll be a step ahead with people we can trust.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-27   10:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull, All (#1)

yes, this is our pre-emptive strike. btw, this is still a work in progress. we have font size issues that need to be addressed.

christine  posted on  2008-12-27   12:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Christine (#2)

we have font size issues that need to be addressed.

Font size issues? What font size issues?

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-27   13:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#3)

i'm using IE/Maxthon and the font is huge. on firefox, it's half the size. i've got a skin for each, but i have to go over every page of the forum on both and properly size it all.

christine  posted on  2008-12-27   14:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Christine (#4)

I use IE and it doesn't look more than a 12 to me. Seems a little larger than 4um but not overly so.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-27   17:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend, christine (#5)

I use IE and it doesn't look more than a 12 to me. Seems a little larger than 4um but not overly so.

Oh, a "Hacker Target".

Seriously, what I am seeing, using Firefox for Ubuntu Linux, is that the options at the top of the screen i.e., post, comments, register, etc., are too large and so will not fit straight across the screen but instead wrap around in an unsightly manner.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-28   10:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

i.e., post, comments, register, etc., are too large and so will not fit straight across the screen but instead wrap around in an unsightly manner.

that's what i'm seeing on IE. i have to work on it with Neil for each browser. thanks for the feedback.

christine  posted on  2008-12-28   10:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Christine (#7)

You're most welcome.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-28   11:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Christine, Original_Intent (#7)

They go straight across for me. No wrapping. Weird.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-28   12:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#6)

Seriously, what I am seeing, using Firefox for Ubuntu Linux, is that the options at the top of the screen i.e., post, comments, register, etc., are too large and so will not fit straight across the screen but instead wrap around in an unsightly manner.

Hmmm... I'm also using ubuntu/firefox, and it looks fine to me.

Ubuntu 8.04
firefox 3.0.5

I think we'll have several skins available on setup (should be there now) each of which differs only in font size.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-12-28   19:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#10)

what i'm seeing on this page using IE is that reply, trace, private reply are easily twice the size of the poster's name and the text of the post.

christine  posted on  2008-12-28   19:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Christine (#11)

what i'm seeing on this page using IE is that reply, trace, private reply are easily twice the size of the poster's name and the text of the post.

Hmmm all looks the same size to me. The stuff at the bottom, home headlines latest articles and such, looks a different size.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-28   22:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Christine (#11)

what i'm seeing on this page using IE is that reply, trace, private reply are easily twice the size of the poster's name and the text of the post.

Like Farmfriend, I´m in MSIE WinXP now and I´m not seeing anything like that. It looks normal good to me.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-12-30   20:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13)

Though the spanish character set on my WinXP causes problems...

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-12-30   20:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite, christine, all (#13)

what i'm seeing on this page using IE is that reply, trace, private reply are easily twice the size of the poster's name and the text of the post.

Like Farmfriend, I´m in MSIE WinXP now and I´m not seeing anything like that. It looks normal good to me.

I have XP and see no problems except, I get these capital A's with little hats on them.

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Not sure if you see them.

Cute little guys anyway.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-12-30   23:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: wudidiz (#15)

see my #14.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-12-31   17:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#14) (Edited)

Ah that explains it.

I'm using XP as well. Maybe it not IE but XP v. Vista?

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-01   0:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#16)

time zone testing...

Pinguinite  posted on  2009-01-03   18:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18)

time zone testing 2....

Pinguinite  posted on  2009-01-03   22:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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